Taking Up Space in the Age of Ice | Episode 3
NOVEMBER 26, 2025
“Taking Up Space in the Age of ICE”
What does it mean to lead boldly in a moment when presence itself is political? When prayer can provoke tear gas? When faith in public is treated as a threat?
In this powerful new episode of Back Talk, we explore what it means to take up space faithfully, publicly, and prophetically in a time of escalating deportations, criminalized difference, and shrinking sanctuary.
Dr. Handy and her guests, Pastor David Black and Rev. Dr. Marilyn Pagán-Banks, explored…
What it means to take up public, spiritual, and prophetic space when that space is being actively policed, surveilled, or denied
How churches, clergy, and communities can resist erasure and reclaim space as sites of belonging, disruption, and liberation
How leadership on the margins invites not just safety—but radical courage, embodiment, and imagination